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When it melted, it melted the entire outer shell and it made a giant eight-foot block, four feet tall lasagna of pizza and plastic.
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So the worst part about this okay, like almost everything was safe, like it was a very small.
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It was a strong, small, contained fire.
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But whenever they put the fire out they will usually cut a hole to relieve, like pressure and heat.
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The hole that they cut was exactly my room and they gave me the Buffalo Bill treatment and they took that hose up there and they turned that hose on Dude sliced my bed in half.
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Oh my.
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God Cut all my clothes and destroyed my original, like Pentium 2 that I ran like diablo 2 on.
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Just destroyed man game attack.
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Welcome back to Gamertagged.
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I'm Scarto46.
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And I'm Martha Maple.
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And today we're sitting down with the one and only Captain Robear, Bartender, storyteller and the captain of community tables everywhere.
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This episode is packed.
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We talk about Boy Scout origins, dragon Quest, bar life and what it means to truly build culture around the table.
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And for the first time ever, we've got a hollow foil re-roll card.
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That's right, shiny gold and live now at gamertagpodcastcom.
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You've never seen Captain Energy quite like this.
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So let's set sail.
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Here's our conversation with Captain Robear.
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Welcome to this episode of Gamertag.
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Captain Robear, thank you for joining us tonight.
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Great to be here.
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Oh yeah, Also with us tonight is Martha Maple.
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Hello.
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Okay, she always chose a different route there.
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And also Ryan Osiris.
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Hello, all right, welcome everyone.
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I'm your host, scarto46.
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We're here tonight with Captain Robear.
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We're hanging out, just jamming, chatting it up.
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We totally haven't been talking for the last hour and a half we have not?
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We literally just met you.
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This is the real start of the episode.
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This is the real start.
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Yes, we don't have an hour and a half of recorded content about all kinds of crazy stuff.
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Captain Robert, let's talk about you, not your tag, not your gamer tag, but like what first pulled you into digital spaces or gaming worlds.
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Elder millennial, 40 years old here.
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So I've got to ride the wave.
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I've been there for Yahoo chats, al chats, the infamous JNCO jeans forum chat room.
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I've been here for it all.
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Did you wear JNCOs?
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I didn't.
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My mom would never.
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She would have never paid for that.
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I was a Levi's red tag.
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You know four new pairs of jeans at the beginning of school season.
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I did not get the $40, $50 jeans.
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No, you should have been cutting grass for the jingo money.
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When I was cutting grass, we were saving up for that first NES.
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Oh yeah, that's true.
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Oh yeah, no true.
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Oh yeah, no priorities, yeah there was some serious priorities then.
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So, man, I've got to grow up.
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It's just a very fortunate thing to be an age appropriate during all of these phases to like learn how to be a digital entity from the beginning.
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How to be a digital entity from the beginning.
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It's just such an advantage to know be a child in the old world, get to have my own innocence and protection, to make mistakes and not be in the public eye and, you know, to have my village raise me and curb my behavior and really form a person that I am, before I even get to put myself on a platform.
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You know I was there when college humor was in the party picks game.
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This is a crazy era.
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Long before the dropout days they had a place where you could dump your digital pictures from the party the night before.
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This is pre Facebook.
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So there's, you know there's some early Robear that no one will ever notice or identify, because in the early 2000s it was a very unfortunate era for guys.
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You had to be in your boy band era and if you weren't your friend group, justin Timberlake?
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you were just.
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Joey Fatone with your pink necklace.
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Your horrible, high and tight bird's nest in the front got to be glued.
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Oh man, it was a rough era.
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People don't realize how, at that point, we were still so driven by what MTV told you to do, what Carson, daly and TRL told you to do.
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Those things were all the original influences of culture and mainstream media that told you what you were going to like and what group of people you were going to hang out with from the movies, media and music that you consumed.
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That is all gone now, yeah.
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The greatest story that I can tell about this is I have a friend.
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She raises her child and she doesn't have any auxiliary forces outside of her to tell her what she is supposed to enjoy.
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And you know what she loves the most, what she loves Rush.
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Oh, my God.
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She loves a group of Canadians playing crazy prog rock and she wants to be a bassist like Geddy Lee, because she's just watched the YouTube videos and loves the music and there's nobody there out there to tell her that she shouldn't listen to Rush.
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I love that dude.
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That is beautiful.
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Back in the 90s, if you wanted to, you had to listen to Queensryche.
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You had to put on your black leather jacket.
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You always had the ponytail.
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You were one step away from comic book guy.
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You were like cleaned up comic book guy.
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Trust me, I've been to a lot of dream theater shows.
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I was that guy.
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I know what it was like.
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So it's cool seeing how we've metamorphosized into this world now to where you can be super narrow and just enjoy what you want to enjoy.
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However, trading that off from the old world where you needed to know a little bit about a lot and you know me, having my bartender background it's important to have that conversation.
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I can talk to a farmer about the farmer's report at a gas station and I can also talk about Twitch, pax East.
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So that's something that we have lost that now, because you don't have to have that.
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We have to spend a lot of time with my five and seven year old nephew to make sure that they get those worldly experiences, because they can just love Paw Patrol now.
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Yeah, paw Patrol could be their sole existence.
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Stay in that bubble.
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Yeah, you can be super narrow these days.
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I've got to ride the evolution and I got to do it at an age appropriate level and I feel like I was there for the Goldilocks zone and I have to be a good steward to know that either end of it, kind of like in the middle of the balancing scales.
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Can I ask you what haircut you had back in the MTV days, because I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours Once.
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I quit high school football, I grew my hair out the first time.
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A hundred percent, I'm done, done.
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I'm not playing organized sports anymore.
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I'm walking out like judd nelson simple minds is playing in the background.
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Dude, I went full long hair but I was clean shaven for most of my life.
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I did large sideburns and that freaks people out like huge elvis chops that was, and also that was like that scott era too.
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Yeah, we're folks so like I was adjacent to that.
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But I was very much like.
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I did the long hair, metal head, like I have native american heritage, so it was like I was.
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I was getting back into my roots with that.
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And then in college I was like all right, all right, this is.
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Oh man, this is bad.
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You can't, you are not allowed to be your own person here.
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You very much have to assimilate.
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And uh man, the jo, the Joey Fatone era was rough.
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It was rough.
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I had a bowl cut.
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I had a bowl cut and JNCO jeans and the wallet chain I had the whole thing going on.
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Man, you had the corn shirt and the thick fan bead necklace.
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Oh yeah, no, I did the puka shell necklace.
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Yeah, it's still puka shell.
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God, those got so dirty, they were so disgusting I didn't change my driver's license picture for like 15 years and I had the freaking puka shell necklace on my driver's whatever dude what, dude?
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that's a horcrux.
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Now, that's yeah I'm gonna bring puka shell necklaces back.
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So when you're growing up, were games a constant for you?
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you mentioned you were cutting grass to buy the new nest game, but like yeah, so yeah, like super fortunate I, I also get to grow up with like the greatest era of gaming.
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You know, my my dad's a huge pinball nerd, so I grew up with a with a nice full cabinet downstairs, uh, which that's just a luxury to have.
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What pinball game, though it's an old mermaid.
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Oh, yeah, god.
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I love it.
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My dad was a big pinball guy too.
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Man, that's so cool.
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In that era we had that video rental arcade combo.
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Ours was called.
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Videos and Cream, which is wild, a wild name to have now.
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I remember going up and cashing tickets for Pogs, so I had that classic Strangers Things kind of 80s to 90s experience.
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I was born in 84, so I was born in the 80s, but when you're in small town America, the 90s were still the 80s.
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Oh yeah, 100%.
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Like my basement still looks like the basement I grew up in.
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Still looks like the Stranger Things one you know, but I was there.
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I that I grew up in still looks like the Stranger Things one you know, but I was there.
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I got to have the Atari 2600.
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I had that growing up, so gaming was always there.
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My brother's five years older so, thank God, he was always contributing way more in those early years to us getting stuff.
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So when we got that first NES, we got Duck Hunt, we had Mario and we got Dragon Warrior came with it, because Dragon Warrior came with the Nintendo Power subscription, oh yeah.
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And Dragon Warrior, which is Dragon Quest 1, which free pop for them.
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The HD 2D remaster is coming out this fall of 1 and 2 and I'm so stoked to go back down there.
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I'm playing 3 right now, which I never got to play way back in the day and it's actually canonically before.
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It's one of those prequel.
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The third is the prequel, but that game is coming out.
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That's what got me hook, line and sinker for turn-based and that's where I fell in love with JRPGs and forming a party and hunting for loot.
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Everything stems from that experience.
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So you know I beat Dragon Warrior.
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This is when I'm going to kindergarten at like half day, so I'm getting to play for those couple of hours before my brother gets back home.
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So you got to be all in and I beat the game before him as a kindergartner.
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He was so pissed, just so livid that his little brother, just you know, just destroyed this game in my small window.
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So like that was my first claim to fame.
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And and of course, then I get Final Fantasy one.
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You know you beat it once with a varied party.
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You start doing crazy combinations of all all white mages, all black mages, all thieves, you know, all red mages.
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And so I go down that JRPG line.
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I keep getting to grow as a person with each system that comes out Super Nintendo in the Sega era, but went through all those and the rest is history as far as electronic gaming.
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I was going to say when did the tabletop stuff come into the picture and what got you pulled into D&D?
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So when I was in Boy Scouts, the high degree of rain out and just shit weather just absolutely spurns tabletop and storytelling.
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So there's just a lot of camp outs of like you wanted to have a great nature weekend and your ass is in a tent holding on for dear life while being pelted by nature's worst.
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So naturally boys are going to tell scary stories, they're going to do all those kinds of like communal things.
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When you're forced to be in a small area and with having tons of bad weather, me and my troop we always made a gaming tent where all this could go and fit, so like you didn't have to go in like crowd one person's tent.
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So we were always set up like this mega, like communal space when we would do it, and so then we would game and back then it was a D&D.
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Did we know any of the rules?
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Very little we were trying to play D&D, just living the whole time.
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Yeah, just stories with your boys.
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Yeah, it's just more of glorified story time.
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It wasn't until HeroQuest hit.
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And it's crazy to think, because the new D&D sets that are coming out right now the Heroes of the Borderlands looks a lot like HeroQuest Because it's pre-gens.
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They're doing a lot of the deck building with cards so it's easier for people to like oh, here's what I have, these are the cards in my hand.
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That's also influenced with where gaming is at right now.
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Deck builders are all the rage.
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Everybody knows that's an easy way for somebody to parse a lot of information.
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But HeroQuest, man, it's just such an easy way to get in to that style of like dungeon crawling and that's very much what it is.
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You know it's, you can rp as little as you want.
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It is mechanically going through a dungeon with a dungeon master and rolling very simple dice that have skulls or shields on them.
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We have every hero quest that's ever available, including our old og set, and right now we're very much doing what we did underneath the tents back in the day.
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It's more like action figure play for them and talking about what is a wizard and what do they do and what they have.
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So they're getting that baseline competency right now.
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That's going to pay dividends here in a couple years when they're like, hey, uncle roe, will you run us through hero quests?
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And I'll be like, oh yeah, buddy.
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Oh yeah, we're so, ed.
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They have no idea how good they're about to have it.
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But yeah, that's where my origin was.
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So like we played a ton of HeroQuest in those long upper South Midwestern winters and it gets cold, you got nothing else to do.
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We would 100% run through HeroQuest and like that kind of kept me maintained all the way through high school.
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I did pick up like a weird D&D like Dragon Quest box that was kind of trying to be Hero Quest but it was like more advanced, it had a lot of the art from AD&D and second edition and whatnot.
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But we would always just kind of like take stuff from that and put it into Hero Quest.
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But there came a point where that just all stopped.
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Like high school hit.
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Like once you get, you know your car keys and you take an interest in whatever, things start to go drastically in a different direction.
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So what became my crutch then was when the release of World of Warcraft that was my senior year of high school.
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Oh, dude, you were a WoW player.
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Oh yeah.
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BC, oh bro.
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Yeah, okay, so I was a vanilla WoW player.
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What did you play in WoW?
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What class?
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Oh, dude, lifetime, Shaman Lifetime.
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Shaman.
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Oh man, you have such Shaman energy, bro.
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That makes so much sense Lifetime Shaman man.
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I love that kind of support.
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It scratches the itch of my little bit of my native heritage a little bit.
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Oh man, I've gone down a rabbit, was a hunter for a freaking.
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I don't know what did I play like 10 years and so that's all I played was one freaking hunter.
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It was so good man.
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Hey, when you had time to waste, let me tell you what.
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I would hang out those soul stones and be like, hey, big boys, who needs a healer?
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What a totally different way of how you play games now.
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But once we got that, that was such a good experience and fulfilled that niche, I didn't need to organize people.
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And because organizing people became very difficult because if we were organizing, we were socializing and going to parties and going to different socialization events and developing as a human in a different way.
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Nowadays I think we've circled back to that where I think that that's a premium experience for people growing up now and I think they are gathering around a physical table more than what I did during that time, the period of time that I grew up in.
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That filled the niche and I didn't get back to it until I sat down with 5th edition and if I hadn't tuned in and seen Critical Role at that time, if I hadn't hopped on before that Briarwood arc and was like you know what I miss, that I miss telling stories like that in person, and so I hopped on the fifth edition train there.
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So I went from barely knowing anything about D&D, missed all the Thaco years and fourth edition and all that Was able to ride the wave of a very, very and easy system, which 5e is, and never look back do you remember the first time you dm'd then and what made you want to dm?
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that was out of necessity.
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You didn't know it when you were younger, but like, yeah, taking over those games in hero quest, I knew if we wanted to play, I needed to be the dm.
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I needed to foster that you had to be your own advocate and nobody else was going to, hey, let's come over and play this.
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Also, they didn't own the box.
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I happened to be the lucky kid that owned the box.
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There's so many factors then that determine whether you become that guy.
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I was lucky.
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I had the DNA, the gumption, wanted to play.
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I want to hype other people up to play.
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I'm the one that's there during class like, oh, what are you going to play?
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Are you going to play Wizard?
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Are you going to do this?
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I'm wanting to live in that space in my head.
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So I'm naturally being the maven, trying to drum up the support to go and play, and to this day, that's still the role that I play.
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I enjoy getting people pumped up and excited to go play something, whether it's D&nd or another video game that's out there.
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So my first experience behind the screen was literally hero quest and that's.
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I think that's where I really got my dmpc chops, because I was like dude, I'm still playing.
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I don't care if I know where all this stuff is.
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Never, nobody, ever told me that I didn't have to.
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I knew what.
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I knew that how to play without ruining the experience for everybody else when did you get the captain's hat man?
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Was that around the same?
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time.
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I love it.
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I'm so addicted to it.