Ep 4 – MooonMooo | Shoeys, Speed, and the Persona She Built

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I don't know why, but like the only thing on my bucket list and it's been on my bucket list since I can remember as long as I've had a bucket list there's one item on there and it's just to ride a cow through a pasture Like a horse.

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I just want to sit on a cow and have it like munch on some grass and that's it.

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Game Attack.

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Welcome to episode four of Gamer Tag.

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Welcome to episode four of Gamertag.

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This week, we're sitting down with Moon Moo, a Twitch streamer and TikTok creator known for her love of cows, moonlit aesthetic and her vibrant community she's built around it all.

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It's a story about lunar cycles, comfort and chaos, and building a digital pasture where people can unwind, be themselves and have fun.

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Moo, are you ready to do this thing?

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Yeah, let's do it.

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Let's do it All right.

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So let's talk about, like the beginning, right.

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So where did moon moo come from?

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And like, how did you, how did you make like that name, like what was the origin point of that?

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it's kind of random in that.

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Like so I was I wanted two syllables that sounded the same, and so I was thinking and I was like, what am I obsessed with?

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I love the moon, like I literally don't stop talking about the moon.

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I looked it up Unfortunately, moon Moon is already a streamer, like a really big streamer, and I was like, well, that's not going to work.

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Then I asked ChatGPT to give me a bunch of ideas relating to the moon.

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But, nothing really worked, like like it didn't sound the way that moon, moon sounded to me in my head.

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And then, um, I was like hold on a minute, why don't I just drop a letter?

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I love cows, like they're.

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They're my favorite animal.

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That's like the one thing everybody knows about me.

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Why don't you just make it moon moo?

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And then I was like also cute, a space cow like that would be awesome as a theme I love that.

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Oh yeah, I just yeah, there was a little bit of this, a little bit of that.

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So when you say you like you can't stop talking about the moon, what do you mean?

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I don't know.

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Every time I see the moon I'm like a night owl to the core and I will like literally text my best friend when the moon is like super cool or like um, we'll go, my husband and I will like literally text my best friend when the moon is like super cool or like um, we'll go, my husband and I will go out of our way to like go off-roading somewhere just so I can get a better view of like the full moon or like oh yeah yeah, I, just I, I love it.

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I don't know what it is.

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It just like it gives me so much peace in the sky.

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It's like seeing it it's where I live is very, very cloudy and rainy, like a lot.

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I think seeing it is just like, oh nice, we had a good day today, and like the moon is just like you know putting a little highlight on that that's, that's super cool.

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So, um, when I, when I was young, um, I kind of grew up in the country, kind of grew up like around a lot of lights, and if you're around a lot of lights you don't really get to see the stars, or that you can see the moon, right, because, like you know, that's the the closest thing.

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But I always loved, like, um, you ever look at a farmer's almanac?

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Yeah, okay, I always love like the how they would show like oh yeah, the moon will be in this phase, at this time, and like it was just so cool like I'm getting away and going out.

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I look those up like weekly.

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Yeah, that's super dope.

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What's your favorite Like, if you had to like.

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What's your favorite moon phase?

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Is it like the big red moon?

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Are you like?

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Are you in that?

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I like the.

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Um, I have two favorites.

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So the uh, the Crescent moon is like I don't know, it's just so classic.

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So the crescent moon is like I don't know, it's just so classic.

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Just the tiny little like toenail of a moon One of my favorites.

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And then the other one is like, usually in the summer, when it just like the huge harvest ones come up over the horizon and they were so big they take up like half of your horizon line, like that is just to me that's magic on Earth, like that is totally.

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It's so magical to me, totally.

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No, yeah, I I remember there was like one specific like I want to say it was like a halloween or something and it made no sense.

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I mean, I guess it was the fall harvest, but I remember seeing an orange moon that was in a harvest moon and I thought, holy crap, like that moon is like the size of like six earths.

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But it really wasn't, it was just like the size of like six Earths.

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But it really wasn't, it was just like the perspective of it.

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Yeah, yeah, dude, you're right, it's super magical For sure, we have a lot of forest fires here, which sucks, but the colors of the moon through the smoke and stuff it is so cool the moon will turn like bright orange or red, or just from the smoke and stuff.

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It's so cool Like it sucks, but it looks really really cool.

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Yeah, that's cool dude, that's awesome, I know you didn't ask me, but a crescent is mine.

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Good choice.

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I like it.

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I have a crescent moon tattooed on my forearm Do you really.

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I have a full moon tattooed on my tricep actually.

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Dang, I guess I should.

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What's the one you?

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got to get a moon, you got to get a moon tattoo.

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Yeah, I got to get like the half moon.

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I just have this unicorn tattoo.

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But yeah, yeah, I mean I'll get a moon tattoo.

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I really do have a unicorn war horse tattooed on my arm.

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That is a thing, okay.

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A unicorn warhorse makes more sense.

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Okay, oh, for my personality, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So thank you, yeah, but uh, so what's what?

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The phase in between would be like a half moon, right?

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Yeah?

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Yeah, you can have a half moon, and then we complete the phases.

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Yeah, excellent, together we make the phases of the moon.

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It'd be like a great guild.

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Yeah, so like, all right, so we, we got into the moon part.

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But, like, cows are like your thing, right, um.

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I saw, I saw a video where you I think it was like early on when you were starting, but you made a um, you made a, an emoji for your, your twitch stream of a cow right like um yeah, I make all my own emotes that's super dope with how did?

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how did like cows kind of take over, right, because like there's also a video of you on tiktok where you're like you're literally playing as gerald, you hop off the horse and go look at the cow so right that video where, uh, I'm like obsessed about cows in the witcher.

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Um, that's me anytime I drive past a cow in real life yeah so if my husband's driving, I will point out every single cow.

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Keep in mind.

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We live like 20 minutes from the countryside.

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There are cows five minutes up the street from me.

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No matter what, I have to point and say oh my god, cows okay and so, like I was thinking of, when I was thinking of emotes and stuff like that or badges and whatnot um, I mean a moon, you can only do so much.

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And I was like, well, mean, obviously cows are going to be involved in some way.

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It's my channel, so we're definitely going to do cows.

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And then there was also like immediate, for some reason, like community immediate branding was around milk.

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So it just came up and we just went with it.

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I have like milk truck stickers and like cow emotes, just everything and anything related to cows and milk and cheese is fair game that's dope dude.

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I mean they do this kind of all put together with, like the, with the moon and the cows and, and it makes sense, right, like the moon is made of cheese exactly.

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Yeah, the cow jumped over it exactly.

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Oh man, I forget it.

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I forget about that.

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Parable could pull rhyme yeah, yeah, I know things.

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I'm curious.

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Uh, I guess like what.

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What did it feel like the first time you were playing a game and somebody called you you know moon, moo or moo or I?

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I just remember the first time you know somebody, somebody called me Rhino.

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It was kind of like a shock, but also like such a nice warm feeling.

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I think a lot of people couldn't decide whether they want to call me Moon or Moo and so usually it started with Moon.

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So most people like when I was first starting to meet streamers and that kind of thing, a lot of them went with Moon and I was like, oh, oh, my god, this is so cute and it's such a like a uh I mean for lack of a better term like celestial name yeah I feel I feel elegant, I feel majestic.

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And then I was like, and then some people started calling me moo and I was like you know what this is like?

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So much more my vibe.

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So now like I like both.

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I really, if somebody calls me either one, I'm so like I mean it sounds the same anyway, right, but moo just adds a little bit of the silliness and like just the, the unserious vibes that I think that I bring to the table.

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I think moon is giving me a little bit too much credit.

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So I love moo.

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I think moo is just silly.

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I had that same experience when I was like, like, when we were talking, when I was reaching out to you, and I was like which?

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one do I?

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Which one do I go with?

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And then I think I actually, like you, described that evolution of people getting to know you.

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I think I went through that exact evolution.

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I think I first called you moon and then I called you moo like later.

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Yeah, yeah, so that's exactly what happened with me it just fits, I don't know it.

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Just yeah, that's good does anyone call you that in real life?

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sort of so um, not in the sense of like moo, um, but my, but my.

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So my mom and my, my aunt while she was alive, she used to call me by a.

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I'm Eastern European, so it was a longer Eastern European nickname and I've been called it my whole life.

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But the first syllable of it is moo.

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So my mom and my aunt had shortened it and they had called me moo since I could walk, basically had shortened it and they had called me moo since I could walk basically.

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So it's not like once I was able to kind of connect the sound of M-O-O to the name M-U.

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I think it just like I was like oh yeah, this feels even more right.

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Like this is, this is, this is me.

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It's just like everyone's been calling me that forever and my family and stuff like that.

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So so it's just, it just is who I am.

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That's super cool.

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I was going to ask like, did that come before?

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But yeah, I mean clearly it did.

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Like you've been called that your entire life.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I did like a toddler and started calling me the nickname and then, I don't know, I just kind of it just stuck and I was like two or three people that regularly called me it growing up.

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Yeah.

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But, yeah, it stuck Hit me in the field.

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My aunt was the first person to call me Rhino, so when I was, you know, a kid, so I get the.

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Yeah, I feel that.

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No one called me Scarto.

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Actually, I told my mom that I just made this nickname up for myself.

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I think I was like 15 16 and I started calling myself that.

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Yeah, I mean, I wish I had the experience that both of you did that.

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Someone called me this, this name, but nope.

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Uh, everyone just thought that's a weird kid who decided to call himself after horses on some armor and gladiator hey, I mean, if it resonates with you, who cares how it got there, right?

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Yeah, dude, yeah yeah.

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I mean, you kind of build your own thing out of it, right so, all right.

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So your content, what is the type of content that you want people to think about when they think about moon move?

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Type of content, honestly, like unserious, like I just want, I want to be a good time, you know, like yeah you're just, it's not even like, oh, I want to be there to entertain.

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It's just like I want you to leave my stream feeling better than you came in.

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Or if you're like, oh man, I had like kind of a rough day.

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It was crazy.

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I was just running around those stupid people at work just like, would not, would not, leave me alone, whatever.

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Then you're like you know what I'm gonna do.

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I'm gonna hop into a moose stream and like, just listen to the banter and the chaos and listen to her jump off a cliff for the 60th time because she can't figure out how to double jump.

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So um, yeah, I think it's super dope that you, you like, want people to just come have a good time and hang out, like that's the space you're trying to create.

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I think that's awesome yeah, like I think there's a lot of um, I think a lot of people go online and look for places to kind of talk and really like connect with people.

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Like I said, kind of how I like I started with, like I was looking for positive human interactions, right yeah and there's a lot of um people like to and I don't blame them at all because it's it's a safe place, but like they like to um, you know, for lack of better phrasing like trauma dump in streamers, um streams a lot.

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It's like super common Um and I always say, like that is a for my, my discord DMs are always open for that.

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If you're having a bad time, that's where my DMs come in, like just shoot me a message and be like dude, I'm really struggling, or like this is what happened today and I just don't know what to do about it.

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But I want to keep that out of my stream because you never know what's like, what's going to set somebody else off right like I've.

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I've dealt with anxiety, um, like a lot of my life and stuff and I, if I'm in a particularly vulnerable kind of day, if I go into a stream and I'm just reading all these like anxiety inducing, kind of like dumps from people venting it just.

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It just exacerbates my own issues.

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So I want to be the safe place where they can still feel like they can talk to me.

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But I also put like hard limits on like hey, this is not, this is not the place.

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Like my dms are the place, get off of this like light-hearted, you know.

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Like we're here to laugh at my terrible gaming skills.

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We're not.

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We're not here to to trauma dump and stuff like that.

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So yeah, no, for sure.

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You're trying to make a safe space for people to just like come chill out, right, like you know, that's what exactly I want?

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like it's an unwinding.

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I don't want it to be like something that just winds you up even more yeah, yeah, I think that's that's super cool, and I think it's cool that you mentioned, like do you feel like you're an empath, like as a person?

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I definitely have my moments.

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I like to joke that like I don't have a heart and I don't like to deal with my feelings, yeah exactly.

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But I, if somebody is actually struggling and needs somebody to talk them through something, needs somebody to talk them through something, or just get something off their chest, like I am there for them in in two seconds flat, like I, I like I need to be that place, I need to be their sounding board, I will be that for them.

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Yeah, um, yeah, just not in like a public kind of setting I think I think you probably get presented with this a lot of times, like because you're you're, you're so out front with your content and being a streamer and making a space for people.

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Yeah, I guess what you're trying to say is like you make a safe space for people and maybe do you recognize, like you maybe make more positives than you know in people's lives and is that kind of your goal with what you're trying to do with your content is, like you know, feel like man, that was cool, like I got to come home from work and have a stressful day or whatever, but I got to like just hang out in a place where everyone's chill.

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Yeah, I hope so, like that's.

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That's definitely what I want is like oh man, I had a rough day at work.

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I better just toss on my favorite show.

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Yeah.

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Some people put it right and it's like yeah, absolutely.

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Like.

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I think I put off vibes where, like I, people really do get to know me through my streams, so I think if they were struggling, I I would like them to think that it's like oh, I know this person well enough from the positive sides of like what she presents on stream and stuff to feel free to, um, you know, reach out if I needed help and stuff like that.

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And um, especially like we brought up um because june was um men's mental health month and stuff like that so, like we brought that up a couple times and you know I bring it up in like a as positive of a way as possible- right kind of reminding.

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So I like to give people reminders that like hey, I like I am a safe place to dump your stuff, because I do.

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I think that a lot of times people just don't feel safe giving that information or that side of themselves to somebody maybe in their own lives, whether it be their parents or whoever friends, whatever right.

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So like sometimes all you need is just somebody in your corner for 20 minutes.

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Well, I think that's why it shows up in this space, right, because, like you know, you're not like directly connected to the person.

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They don't really know you.

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They know your persona, right, and I think that's the interesting thing about, if one of the interesting things about, digital personas and like doing the show and like just thinking a lot about this topic, like um, that people connect to like the thing that you put out, right, like they connect to right, like the thing you're providing, and I think that's really beautiful, right, cause it's almost like the most honest way, like that you can present yourself and they can receive that presentation because it's not, like you know, filled with bias or other perspectives or whatever.

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Right, like it's just.

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Yeah, I think that's super cool, dude, yeah.

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I think, like because I've brought up my own struggles with anxiety and stuff a couple times in stream, and I think I've brought up my own struggles with anxiety and stuff a couple times in stream and I think I think just having an example of like okay, you know, even blank person deals with that and this is how they deal with it, or like, oh, they're still.

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They're phrasing because I'm a big believer in like positive self-talk.

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I'm bad at it, but I'm getting there.

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It's super important.

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But it's like you know, I'm having a really anxiety-filled day and then I'm playing whatever game is kicking my ass at the current moment and it's like every time I'm failing at the game.

00:17:45.756 --> 00:18:03.826
I could present that as like I'm failing at this game, just like I'm failing at life or whatever, and then you just perpetuate the problem right when it's like no, you just perpetuate the problem right where it's like no, no, I'm failing at life and I'm failing at the game.

00:18:03.826 --> 00:18:04.801
Those are not like related in any way.

00:18:04.801 --> 00:18:12.164
So I think I think I've had quite a few like honest chats with them about like hey guys, like I'm really struggling, but like I still want this to be a positive and like uplifting place to be um.

00:18:12.164 --> 00:18:19.559
So I think I hope that I can I strike a good balance as far as, like I'm I'm super open and honest about the things that everyone deals with.

00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:23.898
Like I'm not just like oh my god, look at her, she's got no problems in her life but.

00:18:23.939 --> 00:18:33.801
I also am not defined by my problems or my anxiety um, so we talked a little bit about cows earlier, right, and you talked a little bit about the language.

00:18:33.801 --> 00:18:39.638
So how many cow, how many cow puns have you heard and in your life?

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oh dude, I don't even know dude.

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But like if you had to guess, like, what's a number would you put on that?

00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:51.378
I mean like I probably hear at least a handful a week just from streams and discord alone.

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So multiply that by a year and a half and then plus a couple hundred here and there, it's a lot like there's so many milk and utter jokes and are they all like?

00:19:05.208 --> 00:19:06.798
are they all like like dad jokes?

00:19:06.798 --> 00:19:08.361
Is that kind of the vibe of the?

00:19:08.361 --> 00:19:08.582
I?

00:19:08.982 --> 00:19:12.538
love a good dad joke and everyone does that, oh yeah, so what's?

00:19:12.538 --> 00:19:13.520
Your favorite.

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What's your favorite cow dad joke?

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Oh, that's so hard.

00:19:19.337 --> 00:19:21.021
There's got to be one that like sticks out in your mind.

00:19:21.021 --> 00:19:23.748
You're probably going through like 10 right now like rapid fire.

00:19:29.038 --> 00:19:31.392
But like, just pull the trigger on, like what you think is your favorite one.

00:19:31.392 --> 00:19:34.420
I got one Go.

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What did the—you ready?

00:19:35.723 --> 00:19:38.083
Yeah, what did the momma cow say to the baby cow?

00:19:38.083 --> 00:19:40.939
What?

00:19:40.939 --> 00:19:42.682
What past your bedtime?

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oh my god see, this is a good example of one.

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You probably don't have to, you know, remember usually it's my grandpa, my grandfather, was a farmer I know I have.

00:19:54.846 --> 00:19:56.607
Do you think he has a?

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He has a cow I could ride he is unfortunately not alive anymore.

00:20:02.241 --> 00:20:07.558
Um, he did have cows and he he was a actually a corn, a corn and wheat farmer.

00:20:07.558 --> 00:20:13.416
Um, and he bought cows because he wanted them um, he didn't like he didn't milk them.

00:20:13.416 --> 00:20:16.502
He didn't like you't have them butchered or anything.

00:20:16.502 --> 00:20:17.183
They were his pets.

00:20:17.183 --> 00:20:18.365
I love that.

00:20:18.365 --> 00:20:21.539
He loved those cows.

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Yeah, that's awesome.

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I don't know why, but the only thing on my bucket list and it's been on my bucket list since I can remember as long as I've had a bucket list there's one item on there and it's just to ride a cow through a pasture, of course, and it's just to ride a cow through a pasture like a horse.

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You just, I just want to sit on a cow and have it like munch on some grass, and that's it.

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I mean kind of cow or just like but any cow would make my life yeah yeah, is a dairy cow, then your favorite cow?

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That's tough.

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So like it's hard to say, I'm derailed.

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Legitimately.

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I love it.

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What I love is that, because I'm so passionate about this conversation.

00:21:04.516 --> 00:21:16.823
I'm so passionate about cows guys, but it's like it's hard to say that like the classic black and white cow print, you know, like isn't your favorite, but like have you seen a highland cow?

00:21:16.823 --> 00:21:17.896
How?

00:21:18.176 --> 00:21:27.743
fluffy highland cows they're so fluffy yeah I've been trying to talk my wife into getting a couple because we have, we have a little bit of a lot of.

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We probably don't have enough room, but almost enough room you want to get cows, I'm on the pro I want two highland cows and I want a shetland pony you can get like the mini highlands and then a donkey to protect them because of where we live.

00:21:43.434 --> 00:21:53.403
They're bears and stuff you just have been gone from two animals to four very quickly it's okay, that's how our cats multiplied too.

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I was going to say, then you'll know someone whose cow you could ride, Although I think, like I just want to touch on, I don't know that you would ride it through a pasture like a horse right, Like I've never seen a cow move at any great speed, because they're just kind of chilling man.

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They don't really gallop, they kind of like no, no, I don't need them to move through.

00:22:13.056 --> 00:22:13.856
No, no, I don't need them to move through.

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No, no, they could take their time.

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I'm okay with that.

00:22:16.278 --> 00:22:17.199
Okay, all right.

00:22:17.199 --> 00:22:24.423
So I was sitting at dinner tonight with my daughter and my wife and I said you know I'm going to do some research on cows.

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And then they both rolled their eyes like I was an idiot.

00:22:27.527 --> 00:22:32.569
But I think you know it sounds like you might appreciate that research.

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Do you want me to give you some of what I learned?

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about cows.

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High figures for cows, High data point.

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High data point no.

00:22:41.176 --> 00:22:43.357
I don't have percentage points on cows.

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What I do have is that did you know that every cow's pattern is its own?

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Its print pattern is its own fingerprint.

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They're all unique.

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I did know that Isn't that cool.

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Zebras are like that too.

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Yeah, yeah yeah, which is cool?

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That's super cool.

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They have a four-chambered stomach.

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Did you know that?

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I did.

00:23:05.250 --> 00:23:07.051
Okay, they only have 32 teeth.

00:23:07.092 --> 00:23:08.593
They knew that too, and I don't know why.

00:23:10.496 --> 00:23:16.163
They have 32 teeth and then the back ones don't exist because they're eating grass.

00:23:16.163 --> 00:23:17.886
I think is what I remember reading.

00:23:17.886 --> 00:23:20.250
I'm looking at my notes.

00:23:20.515 --> 00:23:22.942
I think they get ground down a lot, or something like that.

00:23:23.123 --> 00:23:28.161
Yeah, okay, I'm looking at my notes.

00:23:28.161 --> 00:23:29.882
I think that was all of my cow facts.

00:23:31.375 --> 00:23:39.444
Well, it turns out you knew all of them, so yeah, they like store different levels of curds in each of their stomachs.

00:23:39.444 --> 00:23:40.528
Pretty gross yeah.

00:23:41.194 --> 00:23:41.958
But let's get back to.

00:23:41.978 --> 00:23:45.232
let's talk about games, I guess, I guess we should probably do that.

00:23:45.252 --> 00:23:46.461
yeah, Let me talk about games a little bit.

00:23:46.461 --> 00:23:50.785
Yeah, I just want to talk about like nostalgia, like those old games.

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You know Majora's Mask and Spyro clearly mean a lot to you.

00:23:55.705 --> 00:23:57.698
So what does?

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What role does Nostalgia play in your digital identity?

00:24:01.679 --> 00:24:04.403
okay, I want to preface with Majora's Mask.

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It was one of the most frustrating games I've ever played in my entire life.

00:24:07.442 --> 00:24:11.785
I don't know have either of you played it?

00:24:12.287 --> 00:24:16.402
yes, I don't think I've played a Zelda game ever.

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Maj, okay, your mask is brutal.

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Yeah, I had a sega growing up, so I didn't okay, fair enough so I missed.

00:24:25.267 --> 00:24:37.789
I missed like when I moved to canada the playstation 1 was already out, so we got a ps1, probably in like 2002, 2003, something like that.

00:24:37.789 --> 00:24:43.208
Like I missed the N64, the Sega, the beginnings of PS1.

00:24:43.208 --> 00:24:51.654
Like I missed all the OG kind of stuff, but I was addicted to that PlayStation, so Spyro was a big one there.

00:24:51.654 --> 00:24:54.059
My brother and I would do the whole thing where you like.

00:24:54.059 --> 00:25:01.795
Leave it on, because our memory card corrupted, of course oh yeah, leave it on all day 24, 7 yeah run back home from school.

00:25:02.015 --> 00:25:04.560
Hope that it's not frozen onto your tv screen.

00:25:04.580 --> 00:25:34.461
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, so we did a lot of that, and that's like the only time we weren't fighting as kids was like when we were teaming up to try and beat a stupid spiral level for the 16th day in a rope, and so like, yeah, definitely, I played a lot when I was younger, and then I took a long hiatus through my teens and then I picked it back up again, um, like five, six years ago, and so now I get to do the awesome thing of like going back and playing all these games that I missed.

00:25:34.461 --> 00:25:39.089
So I'm a huge Zelda fan just diehard Zelda.

00:25:39.089 --> 00:25:44.368
My first one that I ever played, though, was Breath of the Wild, so I missed that.

00:25:44.368 --> 00:25:47.118
All of the good OG Zeldas.

00:25:47.118 --> 00:25:59.179
Now I get to do this awesome thing of experiencing them all for the first time, but, like now you know what I mean yeah, yeah, preparing it to modern games, so it's been super cool.

00:25:59.809 --> 00:26:01.217
So you started that.

00:26:01.217 --> 00:26:03.436
Okay, so there's a lot to unpack there.

00:26:03.436 --> 00:26:09.480
So Breath of the Wild was where you started your entrance back into Zelda.

00:26:09.480 --> 00:26:18.263
And Breath of the Wild is like amazing like it is that it is a super well-built modern game yeah um, how was going backwards?

00:26:19.752 --> 00:26:21.255
hard, oh yeah.

00:26:21.255 --> 00:26:22.336
I bet where did you go?

00:26:22.376 --> 00:26:24.701
backwards to first yeah, the first.

00:26:24.821 --> 00:26:27.251
So well, first I took a quarter step back.

00:26:27.251 --> 00:26:31.622
I played Link's Awakening like the remastered Link's Awakening 10 out of 10.

00:26:31.622 --> 00:26:32.363
Great game.

00:26:32.363 --> 00:26:36.039
And then from there I went to Ocarina.

00:26:36.730 --> 00:26:43.703
Because, you know, every person that hopped into stream was like, oh my God, I love Zelda.

00:26:43.703 --> 00:26:45.718
And then I would ask them, well, what's your favorite Zelda game?

00:26:45.718 --> 00:26:48.640
And like 90% of them were like, oh, it's Ocarina of Time.

00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:57.634
I was like, done, okay, good, we're doing Ocarina and I just it holds up so well.

00:26:57.634 --> 00:27:05.723
Still, you know like, especially if you're playing the I played the OG version on the N64 emulator on the Switch yeah, um, but they made the like 3DS version of it.

00:27:05.723 --> 00:27:09.777
If you're playing the 3DS version of it, it just stands up so well.

00:27:09.777 --> 00:27:14.276
Even now, the only thing you miss is the camera control, right.

00:27:14.276 --> 00:27:27.721
So that takes a lot of figuring out and like trying to figure out what the heck I'm doing when I can't have support of a, of an independent camera, right.

00:27:27.721 --> 00:27:37.396
But it's been really cool to experience other people's like decades, decades old favorites in my 30s.

00:27:37.898 --> 00:27:38.440
Well for sure.

00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:50.077
Well, Ocarina is timeless in the way that the systems operate Like it is a beautiful game, for sure, and I'm not wrong, Like the original was on 64.

00:27:50.077 --> 00:27:50.859
Is that right?

00:27:50.859 --> 00:27:53.136
On Ocarina of Time?

00:27:54.109 --> 00:28:05.580
So there's one before Ocarina, but everyone considers Ocarina to be like the first Zelda, because it's the first one in the timeline, yeah, but there is one before it that was apparently even harder.

00:28:05.580 --> 00:28:11.962
So, safe to say I'm going to be putting a little pause before I play that one, because Majora's Mask just hurt my soul.

00:28:11.962 --> 00:28:15.818
But yeah, that one was on N64.

00:28:17.049 --> 00:28:17.751
Dude.

00:28:17.751 --> 00:28:30.663
So Majora's Mask switching to that like is super hard and brutal and unforgiving and I think a lot of people bounce off Majora's Mask, like because of the masks and like having to manage all that.

00:28:30.663 --> 00:28:33.675
Oh yeah, I saw that you didn't.

00:28:33.675 --> 00:28:36.509
You get like 100%, like you got all the masks in the drawer.

00:28:36.509 --> 00:28:39.876
I got all the masks, yeah, but I did kind of cheat.

00:28:39.876 --> 00:28:47.462
I had a guide going so after I finished a section so I would do it all like as much as I could guideless.

00:28:47.462 --> 00:28:50.357
Yeah, yeah, so I would do it all like as much as I could, guideless Like I would go in, I would do.

00:28:50.357 --> 00:28:54.130
I think the first part you go into is like the swamp or whatever right.

00:28:54.490 --> 00:28:55.231
So you go into the swamp.

00:28:55.271 --> 00:29:02.023
I would do all that, do the temple, come back out, and then I would refer to the guide and be like, okay, is there anything that I missed?

00:29:02.023 --> 00:29:13.157
Because the first time I tried playing it was actually three months before the second attempt at playing it and I got to, got to like a crucial part and was stuck.

00:29:13.157 --> 00:29:15.827
I was like I have no idea what we're doing, whatever, so I would.

00:29:15.827 --> 00:29:26.482
I looked it up and it was like, oh, you need to make sure you have this piece in this piece, which was from the section before, and I was just like so frustrated at this game by that point I was like I can't.

00:29:26.522 --> 00:29:37.135
I've been running around for two hours not knowing what to do and now you're telling me I need this random side quest that you have to find in the back corner of wherever, and I was like no, I can't do that.

00:29:37.316 --> 00:29:38.880
this can do this.

00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:39.721
It is so hard.

00:29:39.721 --> 00:29:55.276
I mean so to like get all those masks is such a time commitment and it's also like there there's a lot of the old zelda games have like such detail in, like maybe like nuances and like little side quests, right, and so like to get all that dude, like that's.

00:29:55.276 --> 00:29:58.618
So I actually looked up a stat and this stat could be tolerable.

00:29:58.618 --> 00:29:59.121
I don't know.

00:29:59.121 --> 00:30:07.881
The stat is that, like only 15% of all players who've played Majora's Mask have that achievement.

00:30:07.901 --> 00:30:08.060
How many?

00:30:08.060 --> 00:30:08.501
15?

00:30:09.002 --> 00:30:09.844
15, 15.

00:30:09.963 --> 00:30:10.644
Yeah, holy crap.

00:30:11.144 --> 00:30:12.731
Yeah, so like I mean to be fair.

00:30:12.771 --> 00:30:14.798
Probably a lot of people played it when they were like 10.

00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:20.329
Yeah, and no way and like 1% of them ever like actually, because that's insane.

00:30:20.329 --> 00:30:26.357
I mean, you know, here's the thing about those games back when you were 10, you're only getting one game a year and it's for christmas.

00:30:26.357 --> 00:30:27.298
You know what I mean.

00:30:27.298 --> 00:30:33.111
And so you're gonna, you're gonna enjoy the hell out of majora's mask, or true, or hate it, um, but you're, that's all you got to play.

00:30:33.111 --> 00:30:36.659
So you know, I I think I think it's kind of kind of wild.

00:30:36.659 --> 00:30:41.076
You went back through it then like I actually was it today or yesterday.

00:30:41.458 --> 00:30:49.442
I learned, like in the last couple of days, that um majora's mask they made in like something like eight to ten months yeah, yeah that's crazy to me.

00:30:49.442 --> 00:30:52.717
It took me almost as long to finish the game as it took them to make it.

00:30:52.717 --> 00:31:05.882
I like it took me from my first play, like attempt, to when I finished it, like I did only play it once a week, but it was eight months and I'm like wow, they basically made the game in the time that it took me to finish this game.

00:31:05.902 --> 00:31:07.815
Yeah yeah, that's so nuts.

00:31:07.815 --> 00:31:10.461
So Spy, spyro, did you finish?

00:31:10.461 --> 00:31:11.573
So one?

00:31:11.573 --> 00:31:12.076
I think it's super.

00:31:12.076 --> 00:31:14.439
I grew up also playing games with my brother.

00:31:14.439 --> 00:31:18.196
We would like we were a Nintendo house so we would do like Chip and Dale, rescue Rangers.

00:31:18.196 --> 00:31:19.836
That was like our game.

00:31:19.836 --> 00:31:25.298
And we also played a bunch of PlayStation stuff too, like whenever we got a PlayStation later on.

00:31:25.298 --> 00:31:27.597
But Spyro was a game we played a ton.

00:31:27.597 --> 00:31:30.871
Did you like?

00:31:30.871 --> 00:31:31.752
Did you love spyro?

00:31:31.752 --> 00:31:33.257
Do you like, have deep connections to that?

00:31:34.299 --> 00:31:35.343
I love spyro.

00:31:35.343 --> 00:31:43.078
Um, like the the first one, like the original um spyro, is the amount of play time we got through.

00:31:43.078 --> 00:31:51.481
That was crazy, because once you finish the game, then you have all of those levels that are just taunting you with those percentages, right?

00:31:51.622 --> 00:31:51.982
Right right.

00:31:52.330 --> 00:31:57.977
All those levels that are like you're 98%, complete this level, and you're like what do you mean, right?

00:31:57.977 --> 00:32:08.503
So then you were just like the amount of time we spent just hunting down you know six coins or those gems here and like two over there.

00:32:08.805 --> 00:32:09.204
Yeah, dude.

00:32:11.950 --> 00:32:12.511
Yeah, it's like it was.

00:32:12.531 --> 00:32:13.757
we got so much play time out of that.

00:32:13.757 --> 00:32:14.759
We talked about this a little bit earlier.

00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:21.219
Um, what do you think people feel when they land, you know, on your twitch stream or your tiktok?

00:32:21.219 --> 00:32:24.252
Do you think they're the same vibe, like your twitch and your tiktok?

00:32:25.615 --> 00:32:27.598
I think um.

00:32:27.598 --> 00:32:32.396
In a sense, yes, I do like TikTok gets the highlights.

00:32:32.396 --> 00:32:42.282
So TikTok gets, because TikTok likes entertainment, tiktok likes the quick-witted explosions and whatever Right right.

00:32:42.529 --> 00:32:53.332
It's a little bit more like the action-ier side of like stream vibes, action-ier side of um of like stream vibes.

00:32:53.332 --> 00:32:57.398
Um, but as far as like who you get as a person, yeah, I think I'm the same vibes on both um.

00:32:57.398 --> 00:33:02.634
You just get a lot more, a lot more of it and like a lot more conversational.

00:33:02.634 --> 00:33:06.342
As far as streams go right, tiktok is the um.

00:33:06.342 --> 00:33:10.320
Short, short highlights of everything, right yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

00:33:10.852 --> 00:33:11.655
I was looking at your TikTok.

00:33:11.655 --> 00:33:14.035
You did a shoeie on TikTok.

00:33:14.055 --> 00:33:15.699
My God, do you want to know how that happened?

00:33:16.019 --> 00:33:17.323
Yeah, dude, what the hell.

00:33:17.323 --> 00:33:18.413
It was like an energy drink.

00:33:18.413 --> 00:33:19.036
Is that what you did?

00:33:19.678 --> 00:33:19.959
Yeah.

00:33:19.959 --> 00:33:29.076
So I had a buddy pop in and he just threw a random emote in chat and, oh my God, is that a shooie?

00:33:29.076 --> 00:33:32.836
And it was literally this other streamer, I think, uh, doing a shooie.

00:33:32.836 --> 00:33:36.875
And they had turned it into an emote and they're like yeah, you know what shooies are.

00:33:36.875 --> 00:33:38.599
I'm like yeah, of course I know what a shooie is.

00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:43.256
And they're like what would it take for you to do a shooie right now?

00:33:43.256 --> 00:33:44.317
I'm like what do you mean?

00:33:44.317 --> 00:33:45.779
I'm not doing a shooie right now.

00:33:45.779 --> 00:33:50.185
And they're like okay, well, how about what if we get 10 subs?

00:33:50.185 --> 00:33:53.615
And I was like no, absolutely not.

00:33:53.615 --> 00:33:57.001
And like okay, what if we get to like a certain level hype train?

00:33:57.242 --> 00:33:59.792
yeah, I was like fine, why not?

00:33:59.813 --> 00:34:04.941
I was like, if we get, if we break the record for a hype train, sure.

00:34:04.941 --> 00:34:23.847
And as it came out of my mouth, I immediately regretted it, because 30 seconds later, not literally 30 seconds later, it took two or three people and we were, we were done and I was like, oh cool, so I guess I gotta go find a shoe that I want to drink and I don't.

00:34:23.847 --> 00:34:32.974
I don't drink alcohol, and I also think it was like noon on on wednesday well, I had an energy drink open next to me already.

00:34:32.974 --> 00:34:35.623
I was like, well, I guess, I guess this is what we're doing.

00:34:35.623 --> 00:34:41.065
So, yeah, did not start that stream expecting to do a shoey, that's for sure that's freaking wild man.

00:34:41.146 --> 00:34:44.141
Yeah, awesome though I always say because people are like oh my god, how did you do that?

00:34:44.141 --> 00:34:48.952
I always say like I'm down to try anything once yeah, totally, I'm like I'm like.

00:34:49.353 --> 00:34:49.813
I'll do it.

00:34:49.934 --> 00:34:50.534
Let's do it.

00:34:50.534 --> 00:34:51.856
What could go wrong?

00:34:51.856 --> 00:34:52.315
You know?

00:34:52.815 --> 00:34:54.657
Yeah, that's like chaotic energy.

00:34:54.657 --> 00:34:56.940
That's exactly what Ryan Ostros and I both are.

00:34:56.940 --> 00:34:58.440
We're like I'm down to try anything.

00:34:58.882 --> 00:35:01.043
I didn't see this Shuey video.

00:35:01.043 --> 00:35:02.684
I don't get on TikTok.

00:35:02.684 --> 00:35:03.646
I don't know what that is.

00:35:03.646 --> 00:35:11.333
What kind of Sh shoe was it like?

00:35:11.333 --> 00:35:12.657
I I feel like liquids would come out.

00:35:12.657 --> 00:35:13.521
Like that's what I think of a sneaker.

00:35:13.521 --> 00:35:15.329
I would think liquid would come out of it if you poured it in but does it not?

00:35:15.349 --> 00:35:16.492
that's exactly what I thought.

00:35:16.492 --> 00:35:17.414
Apparently not.

00:35:17.414 --> 00:35:19.740
If it's just, if it's canvas, it doesn't leak out.

00:35:19.740 --> 00:35:35.286
I think if you left it there, you probably see through yeah sure so I grabbed two shoes and I had them vote on it because I was like okay, here is my high top vans shoe I wear this a lot and I probably want to wear this in three hours once I'm off stream.

00:35:35.467 --> 00:35:39.117
Please don't make me choose this one, but I will choose this if, if you guys must.

00:35:39.117 --> 00:35:50.208
And then, on the other hand, which was honestly a way worse choice, I had like a 10 year old converse that had been to the gym about 600 times.

00:35:50.208 --> 00:35:53.719
Yeah, nice, yeah so obviously they chose that one.

00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:59.179
It was definitely more flavorful than just energy drink.

00:35:59.219 --> 00:36:04.318
I'm just going to say that, yeah, you're putting the salt back in your body.

00:36:05.532 --> 00:36:08.300
Oh yeah, we got eau de foot, that's for sure in there.

00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:27.570
It was something well, I think the cool part about your, your tiktok content and then you talked about earlier making this safe space for people uh, in your twitch, in your twitch chat, um, I think the cool part about your tiktok content is it's like showcasing who you are right and I'm like you know you talk about that.

00:36:27.570 --> 00:36:29.235
I think you talked about your, your phone.

00:36:29.235 --> 00:36:32.425
You show the cars and like how you're not right.

00:36:32.425 --> 00:36:39.802
The phone thing was wild dude, like you just went to pet two dogs and then your phone exploded on on the side of the road.

00:36:40.043 --> 00:36:45.525
That was wild that's the first phone I've fully ever destroyed, so you know it was.

00:36:45.525 --> 00:36:49.036
I feel like in 30 years of life that's not a bad track record.

00:36:49.036 --> 00:36:53.204
But it died a splendid death, that's for sure, yeah, it could have been way dumber.

00:36:53.224 --> 00:36:56.416
You could have just like dropped it off the counter or something you know.

00:36:56.416 --> 00:36:59.733
So at least you have like a cool story right so.

00:36:59.733 --> 00:37:12.983
So on your, I guess I'm getting to the point of like on your, on your tiktok and the content you create there, like yeah, you're trying to like, you think they're the same vibe, just different sides of your personality, I guess I would definitely.

00:37:13.222 --> 00:37:20.204
I would say same vibe like I I don't know how to filter or like be a persona like I just am.

00:37:20.204 --> 00:37:20.724
You know what?

00:37:20.744 --> 00:37:23.474
I mean yeah, um I definitely think it's like same vibes.

00:37:23.474 --> 00:37:42.014
It's just like you definitely get the the chaotic energy a little bit more on the tiktok, because it's usually what the highlights are about, right, so, like you definitely don't get as much of the sense of like a safe place as you do in stream, um, but you definitely get the like, oh, chaos and enjoyment.

00:37:42.014 --> 00:37:46.711
I think of like, because it's essentially what I want tiktok to be is like well, why would I, why would I care?

00:37:46.711 --> 00:37:51.282
Like, why would I want right, why would I click your link or whatever, right?

00:37:51.282 --> 00:38:00.244
And it's like well, this is why, right, I'm, I'm just just a derp that likes video games and cars and does some stupid stuff sometimes.

00:38:00.324 --> 00:38:09.976
So if you like that, you would probably like me tell me, tell me more about the that, the cars part of yourself, like.

00:38:09.976 --> 00:38:11.396
What's your thing with cars?

00:38:13.050 --> 00:38:13.371
So I've.

00:38:13.371 --> 00:38:16.447
I've grown up loving cars.

00:38:16.447 --> 00:38:19.568
I think my dad kind of got me into it.

00:38:19.568 --> 00:38:28.132
Like we used to watch F1 when I was a kid a little bit, I was convinced that I was going to be a Ferrari designer when I was like 10.

00:38:28.380 --> 00:38:30.802
I was like this is my dream I'm going to be able to drive.

00:38:30.862 --> 00:38:33.583
Ferraris when I grow up, like that's all I want to do.

00:38:33.583 --> 00:38:38.385
So I've had like, yeah, I've been a Ferrari girl my whole life.

00:38:38.385 --> 00:38:40.467
So I've had like, yeah, I've been a Ferrari girl my whole life.

00:38:40.467 --> 00:38:55.601
And then, um, then I always say like I feel like I was like a race car driver in a past life I don't really know but there's that, that energy in me that just like needs to go fast.

00:38:55.601 --> 00:39:00.190
Hell, yeah, yeah, it needs, needs a little bit of an edge, right, whatever I'm on, I like I snowboard, I, I used to mountain bike, like all this stuff, and I'm like I just need to go fast.

00:39:00.190 --> 00:39:07.630
Um, so when I got my driver's license and stuff, you know my mom would do the classic like oh my god, you drive just like your father.

00:39:07.630 --> 00:39:08.333
And I'm like well.

00:39:08.414 --> 00:39:17.858
I got it somewhere, so, um, but now you know I finally had the like, the funds to be able to get a for fun car.

00:39:17.858 --> 00:39:23.333
It's always been, you know like what, what makes the most sense and what's the most practical.

00:39:23.739 --> 00:39:24.262
But I'm like.

00:39:24.864 --> 00:39:25.668
I'm 30.

00:39:25.668 --> 00:39:27.166
I don't have kids yet.

00:39:27.166 --> 00:39:31.367
Like why this is the time this is totally.

00:39:31.367 --> 00:39:37.021
And we also have, like we have a Jeep that we've built as like a crazy rock crawler Right.

00:39:37.061 --> 00:39:47.440
So I'm like OK we did a fun car thing over here and I've always wanted to race cars, so, like, can we have a fun thing on the other end of the platform as well?

00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:58.509
Um, and so I've had my car for like a year and a half now and, um, put it on track for the first time last year and stuff like that, and yeah, just it's, I'm meant to be there.

00:39:58.509 --> 00:40:00.914
It's just like it's all I want to do.

00:40:00.914 --> 00:40:17.985
It's cost so much money, but when I can like that's that's what I want to do and it's, yeah, so cool and I just just even being at the track, not even in the car, like that's just all I want to do do you feel like, when you're there, like you're like connected, like it's just like I'm supposed to be here right now on this track?

00:40:19.409 --> 00:40:29.132
Yeah, sometimes definitely Like there's definitely an element, I think, as you get older I don't know if you guys have had this, but like you do get a little bit more just general fear of things.

00:40:29.132 --> 00:40:37.581
Yeah, totally Right, like the things I used to do on my snowboard at 18, I'm like I would never try that now, right, never try that now, um right.

00:40:37.581 --> 00:40:45.452
And so I do get a little bit of that of like either, uh, you know, am I gonna hurt myself, which unlikely that the speeds that I'm going at in that little thing?

00:40:45.452 --> 00:40:51.432
But um, the other thing is like, okay, I paid a lot of money for this car I put a lot of money into it.

00:40:51.740 --> 00:41:04.014
I can't just have it go into a wall you know totally dude yeah there's a little bit of that, but on the other end it's like, yeah, like like the burning rubber smell and like seeing everyone else go flying and like all that stuff.

00:41:04.014 --> 00:41:06.007
It's yeah, it's so cool to be part of.

00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:13.793
I think it's, I think you know you said it, but like I think, as you get older, like you also like embrace this thing of like, yeah, but I still want to feel fear.

00:41:13.793 --> 00:41:17.164
I still want to feel that, yeah, think it's so important.

00:41:17.465 --> 00:41:19.688
Oh, yeah, totally Once you stop doing things that scare you.

00:41:19.708 --> 00:41:32.202
I think, in a sense, like you're, you're done Like you're like kind of done, yeah, yeah, like I'm as a person, I'm a person who's like, uh well, probably to my own detriment, but like I don't seek comfort, I seek on being uncomfortable.

00:41:32.342 --> 00:41:33.463
I'm like yeah, I love that.

00:41:33.802 --> 00:41:35.324
Yeah, I mean, and it's, it's fun.

00:41:35.324 --> 00:41:47.512
But but like I totally get what you're saying, like also, like as an adult with a family and you know understanding, like, hey, if I, if I accidentally break my leg, that's a problem, we've got to do stuff, you know.

00:41:47.512 --> 00:41:49.393
So, yeah, it's a balance.

00:41:49.393 --> 00:41:55.077
Man, I think that's super cool, that like you find a way to, like, you know, feel that fear, feel that excitement, that rush.

00:41:55.117 --> 00:42:00.644
That's cool All right, sorry to get us back on track.

00:42:00.644 --> 00:42:01.367
Um, here we are.

00:42:01.367 --> 00:42:02.740
I'll be the the teacher.

00:42:02.740 --> 00:42:04.608
I guessed, uh, but no, I was.

00:42:04.608 --> 00:42:09.402
I was curious, uh, we usually will ask people, uh, this question that we've been interviewing.00:42:09.402 --> 00:42:15.885


Um, I always find it really interesting to hear kind of what they think before we get a little further into this.00:42:15.885 --> 00:42:22.789


But if you had to describe your digital persona as an in-game character, what do you think that avatar would look like?00:42:23.954 --> 00:42:33.474


okay, you know what the first thing that popped in my head was when I read this question how no, surprisingly no it was, it was crash bandicoot.00:42:35.682 --> 00:42:54.465


I was like I don't know what it is, but he is silly, he is chaos, he's like a little bit too confident at times and just fails spectacularly and then just keeps going, you know, and I was like, yeah, that's, that's a good one.00:42:54.465 --> 00:43:00.068


I thought I just trying to think of cow characters and it's like no, like nothing, like nothing, nothing quite works.00:43:00.068 --> 00:43:10.643


And just Crash Bandicoot just kept like popping into my head and just like then I remember I think I don't remember if it's like a cover or something he's got his like tongue hanging out on one of the.00:43:10.643 --> 00:43:17.869


I don't know if it's a cover of a game or if it's just a freeze frame of one, but I was like, yeah, that's, that's the one.00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:22.927


That frame of one, but I was like, uh, yeah, that's, that's the one, that's freaking awesome.00:43:22.927 --> 00:43:26.260


So so, like what's in the background, like with where's crash, like in your head, or where are you right in your head?00:43:26.260 --> 00:43:30.048


As my like digital self yeah, as your digital self like.00:43:30.048 --> 00:43:34.804


There's a snapshot in time of like you um, are you, are you like?00:43:34.864 --> 00:43:39.371


in a pasture, I'm probably like in space in space, maybe, maybe on the moon.00:43:40.253 --> 00:43:45.088


Okay, um, you know right, like there's got to be, there's got to be stars.00:43:45.088 --> 00:43:49.784


I do like sparkly things and games, shiny objects.00:43:49.784 --> 00:43:51.327


So yeah, there's got to be some stars.00:43:51.327 --> 00:44:07.721


Yeah, maybe not even on the moon, just like kind of traversing space I love that yeah, yeah, oh, we could definitely like get on, maybe use like carsh car ships, you know car ships float between whatever planets or stars that we're trying to gather?00:44:07.721 --> 00:44:14.682


Something like that, like like a mario kart, rainbow road kind of deal you know this sounds like a wild time.00:44:14.902 --> 00:44:18.550


That's what you sound like it's, it's like crash nitro racing.00:44:18.550 --> 00:44:21.655


Yeah, did you like did you play that?00:44:23.402 --> 00:44:28.452


yeah, yeah yeah yeah, oh man, yeah, that, um, so so it's so funny.00:44:28.452 --> 00:44:33.016


You said that because, like, my wife's favorite game is crash, bandicoot, like really, oh yeah, totally she's not.00:44:33.016 --> 00:44:36.972


She's not like a big gamer at all, but her favorite game is crash, and I don't know why.00:44:36.972 --> 00:44:48.592


Um, because when I watch her play crash, she plays it the hardest way, like she's just brute force trying to solve this problem, and I'm like sweetheart, all you really have to do is just grab the mask.00:44:48.592 --> 00:44:51.469


You know, like you make the four pieces of the mask and you can get through this part.00:44:51.469 --> 00:44:53.047


She's like nah, I'm going to do it.00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:54.501


No, no, you're going to do it the right way.00:44:54.501 --> 00:44:55.181


I'm with her.00:44:57.806 --> 00:44:59.527


So where do you feel like you're?00:44:59.527 --> 00:45:01.349


Where do you feel like yourself?00:45:01.449 --> 00:45:05.155


most Like when I say yourself In like an online sense.00:45:05.476 --> 00:45:05.715


Yeah.00:45:07.322 --> 00:45:10.030


Yeah, Probably probably just streaming.00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:10.760


Yeah.00:45:10.780 --> 00:45:31.802


When I just get to shoot the shit with chat and stuff right, like you know, I feel like a lot of them have just become basically just you know, friends that come and hang out with me on a regular basis, right, so it's, I don't filter myself online, like I know.00:45:31.802 --> 00:45:38.614


We're probably supposed to a little bit for Twitch reasons, but nothing, you know, nothing super unhinged comes out anyway.00:45:38.614 --> 00:45:40.445


But it's just like there.00:45:40.445 --> 00:45:45.943


There's no, there's no filter, I just am, you know if I'm having a miserable day I'm yeah, I'm going to tell them.00:45:46.083 --> 00:45:49.887


And if I'm, you know, but it doesn't matter, we're going to make the best of a miserable day.00:45:49.887 --> 00:45:53.742


And if I'm having a great day, then I just want to make sure that they're all having a great day too, Right?00:45:53.902 --> 00:45:56.385


Um, all right, we're gonna take a quick break.00:45:56.385 --> 00:46:01.429


Uh, we'll be right back, uh, with Mu and we'll do, uh, our re-roll segment, um, right after the break.00:46:01.429 --> 00:46:10.876


Cool, all right.00:46:10.876 --> 00:46:13.188


So this is our re-roll segment.00:46:13.188 --> 00:46:21.027


So, in re-roll, what we've done throughout the podcast is take notes on different traits, um, okay, so here's what we do.00:46:21.027 --> 00:46:25.530


Um, we've taken notes throughout the podcast and ryan's going to read those in just a second.00:46:25.751 --> 00:46:31.438


But, um, in doing that, what we try to capture is, like the essence of you, right?00:46:31.438 --> 00:46:39.246


Um, we've been talking today, like about like a snapshot in time of, like your, your personality, like where you are today, and we talked about identity being evolving.00:46:39.246 --> 00:46:58.726


But the way this works is we take these traits and we build a picture of you, like collaboratively, through ChatDBT, and our goal was like, can we show you the prompt, all of the details we captured about you, and then see what we can, what the picture looks like on the other side?00:46:58.726 --> 00:47:01.081


So this is your first role.00:47:01.081 --> 00:47:03.766


It's just our data that we've put together.00:47:04.168 --> 00:47:09.012


Um, you get two re-rolls from here and you can change anything you want to about the picture that comes out.00:47:09.012 --> 00:47:23.152


It takes a little bit to build it, right, because we're regenerating an image, um, but this all becomes, uh, your official gamer tag, trading card, um, which will take this picture and we'll put it in our trading card frame and do all that.00:47:23.152 --> 00:47:29.309


But it's just a way to like, kind of fun way to represent your digital persona and what that looks like.00:47:29.309 --> 00:47:31.333


Does that make sense?00:47:31.713 --> 00:47:32.655


Yeah, this is so cool.00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:34.284


Okay, very cool.00:47:34.344 --> 00:47:34.806


Thanks.00:47:34.806 --> 00:47:37.804


I never know how it's going to land with people.00:47:38.266 --> 00:47:40.050


Yeah're always like trying to debate.00:47:40.050 --> 00:47:43.025


Like you know, we never want to like say that, you know.00:47:43.125 --> 00:47:50.833


AI and artists, so it's like they're not going to you know they're going to be like yeah, that's great yeah, you guys are cool.00:47:50.894 --> 00:48:01.445


It's dumb, that's a good idea yeah, so Ryan's going to read to you what traits we've captured about you during the show.00:48:03.070 --> 00:48:03.391


All right.00:48:03.391 --> 00:48:05.728


So we got key personality traits.00:48:05.728 --> 00:48:13.447


Scardo and I were both taking notes so we wrote unserious be a good time, unwind, silly fun.00:48:13.447 --> 00:48:18.235


Building a safe space under preferred roles in gameplay.00:48:18.235 --> 00:48:20.199


Barbarian and rogue favorite genres in Gameplay.00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:23.427


Barbarian and Rogue Favorite Genres in the World.00:48:23.427 --> 00:48:29.010


Legend of Zelda obviously Signature Style or Vibe Crash Bandicoot is on there.00:48:29.010 --> 00:48:30.945


And then Visual Representation.00:48:30.945 --> 00:48:39.251


We've got Loves, cows, race, car Driver in a Past Life In Space, on the Moon, stars Sparkles and Car Spaceship.00:48:39.820 --> 00:48:42.750


I mean that world sounds pretty magical to me, yeah.00:48:44.181 --> 00:48:51.289


The best part about this is we have no idea what this will create, and we're asking a person who doesn't know you, which is GPT.00:48:51.289 --> 00:48:56.987


So do you feel like we captured good details about you?00:48:57.507 --> 00:48:58.048


I think so.00:48:58.630 --> 00:48:59.751


All right, are you ready to do this?00:48:59.751 --> 00:49:00.414


We'll hit the button.00:49:00.414 --> 00:49:01.815


You, I think so.00:49:01.815 --> 00:49:02.617


All right, are you ready to do this?00:49:02.617 --> 00:49:03.038


We'll hit the button.00:49:03.038 --> 00:49:03.699


Let's see what happens.00:49:03.699 --> 00:49:06.547


All right, let's take a little bit to build, so we just kind of like wrap and talk.00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:08.123


But I had a.00:49:08.123 --> 00:49:08.706


Is it like?00:49:08.706 --> 00:49:11.172


Is it D&D that has cards like this?00:49:11.172 --> 00:49:12.235


Is that what it is?00:49:12.536 --> 00:49:14.884


Yeah or Magic.00:49:14.884 --> 00:49:16.681


The Gathering, oh Magic, the Gathering, magic the.00:49:16.702 --> 00:49:16.902


Gathering.00:49:16.902 --> 00:49:27.668


Yeah, I had buddies that would make like silly ones for one of our Discord, like one of their Discord channels, yeah, and I can't remember what mine was, but yeah, some of them were really funny coming back.00:49:28.221 --> 00:49:28.523


So yeah.00:49:28.625 --> 00:49:29.371


I definitely.00:49:29.371 --> 00:49:30.018


This is pretty cool.00:49:32.306 --> 00:49:33.670


Oh, it's a real cartoony.00:49:33.900 --> 00:49:41.505


It looks like a bandicoot slayer oh my God, this is, this is, this is going to go.00:49:41.525 --> 00:49:45.583


I'll do it, so you don't.00:49:45.965 --> 00:49:46.347


Here's the thing.00:49:46.347 --> 00:49:47.766


You don't have to take a reroll.00:49:47.766 --> 00:49:49.405


You could stay here if you want to.00:49:49.405 --> 00:49:51.847


If you want to change anything about this, you can.00:49:51.847 --> 00:49:54.706


It's totally up to you.00:49:55.422 --> 00:49:58.353


I like that the cow had like half of a space suit on.00:49:59.036 --> 00:50:00.998


Yeah, I love it With the udder hanging out.00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:02.226


With the udder hanging out, yeah.00:50:04.670 --> 00:50:07.768


Should we make it a girl character For Crash?00:50:07.768 --> 00:50:10.208


And then you guys might not get copyrighted.00:50:11.336 --> 00:50:13.507


Sure, let's try.00:50:14.041 --> 00:50:15.318


I'm sorry, I didn't know you would write the props there.00:50:15.318 --> 00:50:16.344


This is awesome.00:50:18.364 --> 00:50:20.670


I'm going to write a prompt and then we'll all agree on it, deal?00:50:20.971 --> 00:50:21.331


Mm-hmm.00:50:21.331 --> 00:50:26.981


Yeah, you've got to tell it that it did a good job, or else it'll mean a lot of things.00:50:27.742 --> 00:50:34.668


Really yes so even chat GPT needs positive encouragement.00:50:34.920 --> 00:50:36.106


Yeah, positive affirmations.00:50:36.340 --> 00:50:39.945


Hit it with mine, not in a bad way, but in an unexpected way.00:50:39.945 --> 00:50:54.885


The third when we did the third re-roll with mine, I was like, please put in this is awesome exclamation point and then type in the change that we want what about a female with purple hair?00:50:55.686 --> 00:50:59.199


ooh sure okay, so what I wrote is this is a great picture.00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:08.822


I love everything about this, but I do need the orange crash bandicoot character to be a female with purple hair I'm excited to see what it comes up.00:51:08.963 --> 00:51:12.860


Do we need to specify like female, what or what do you think it'll assume?00:51:12.860 --> 00:51:15.143


A female crash bandicoot type character?00:51:15.945 --> 00:51:18.990


um, good, good, being being very specific is very good.00:51:18.990 --> 00:51:20.434


Um, because you're right it's like.00:51:20.621 --> 00:51:28.284


It's like a genie that's gonna, you know, really do bad things if you don't yeah, exactly right word, yeah I've watched the witcher tv show.00:51:28.284 --> 00:51:31.853


I know how it works okay and played the games.00:51:31.893 --> 00:51:35.969


I love the witcher game I started the witcher but I never finished it.00:51:35.969 --> 00:51:37.653


I need to you were.00:51:37.673 --> 00:51:39.590


That was super long, dude, it's so long.00:51:39.518 --> 00:51:40.373


It's like skyrim, like I've technically never finished it I need to.00:51:40.373 --> 00:51:40.414


That game is super long, dude, it's so long.00:51:40.414 --> 00:51:41.155


It's like Skyrim.00:51:41.155 --> 00:51:45.047


I've technically never finished Skyrim, even though I have a couple hundred hours in it.00:51:45.490 --> 00:51:49.210


Yeah Well, I mean, they're like sandbox games, though you just kind of vibe for a while.00:51:49.210 --> 00:51:52.327


Alright, hold on Before we get into that.00:51:52.327 --> 00:51:53.490


This is a great picture.00:51:53.490 --> 00:52:00.231


I love everything about this, but I do need the orange Crash Bandicoot character to be a female Crash Bandicoot character with purple hair.00:52:00.231 --> 00:52:01.693


Here we go, let's see what happens.00:52:01.693 --> 00:52:03.985


He loves all the quirks in that game too.00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:07.547


I'm playing Claire Obscure all day.00:52:07.547 --> 00:52:08.992


Right now, expedition 33.00:52:09.561 --> 00:52:10.798


Yeah, we still have to talk about that.00:52:11.795 --> 00:52:12.019


Oh my god.00:52:13.001 --> 00:52:14.708


Claire Obscure, how far in are you?00:52:15.019 --> 00:52:18.184


Oh, like five hours, like fresh, fresh, oh yeah.00:52:18.204 --> 00:52:18.965


It oh, like five hours, like fresh, fresh.00:52:18.965 --> 00:52:19.967


Oh yeah, it's gorgeous too.00:52:19.987 --> 00:52:26.594


That game is beautiful so beautiful and the music, like the soundtrack, like it's so emotional.00:52:31.139 --> 00:52:35.063


I don't really get emotional during games, but holy crap that prologue oh yeah, dude.00:52:35.063 --> 00:52:36.364


That was insane.00:52:36.364 --> 00:52:46.211


Yeah, that was insane, and I love like that studio was born out of former Ubisoft devs and like they were like, yeah, we're going to make something cool, and like I think what they've been.00:52:46.231 --> 00:52:48.632


A lot of people are calling it a game of the year already.00:52:48.693 --> 00:52:49.914


Oh, yeah, I think it is.00:52:49.914 --> 00:52:55.440


I totally agree with that statement Because it is an amazing game, oh here we go, oh my.00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:59.690


Yes, let's see what happens.00:53:00.552 --> 00:53:01.132


Shut up.00:53:01.132 --> 00:53:03.603


That's so cool.00:53:04.545 --> 00:53:04.846


All right.00:53:04.846 --> 00:53:06.911


So this is the same picture.00:53:06.911 --> 00:53:17.179


Right, the cosmic stars in the background, the moon, a race car on another moon, hanging out with a cow and your purple Crash Bandicoot hair.00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:18.967


Yeah, no, that's money right there.00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:19.782


This is it.00:53:19.782 --> 00:53:20.525


This is the one.00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:21.523


Yeah, absolutely.00:53:21.963 --> 00:53:22.547


Sweet dude.00:53:22.547 --> 00:53:25.284


Alright, this is so cool.00:53:25.284 --> 00:53:28.599


I love that you got to have the image you wanted.00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:36.567


So here's what happens from here, we'll take this, we'll make it into an official gamer tag, trading card, and you'll get you know after the show.00:53:36.567 --> 00:53:39.824


You'll not only get a copy of this, our designer also.00:53:39.824 --> 00:53:45.331


The special gift is you can have a poster of it too that you can print out for yourself.00:53:45.331 --> 00:53:47.813


Cool, yeah, it's so cute.00:53:47.813 --> 00:53:48.835


It's cool.00:53:48.835 --> 00:53:49.795


I'm glad you love it.00:53:49.795 --> 00:53:52.487


I love that it captured the style that you wanted too.00:53:53.420 --> 00:53:55.286


Like literally, that's like the art I would do.00:53:55.286 --> 00:53:56.748


I think that's so cool.00:53:56.748 --> 00:53:57.791


That's how I would doodle.00:54:01.659 --> 00:54:02.041


Yeah, art I would do.00:54:02.041 --> 00:54:02.501


I think that's so cool.00:54:02.501 --> 00:54:03.023


That's how I would doodle.00:54:03.023 --> 00:54:03.384


Yeah, it's awesome.00:54:03.384 --> 00:54:03.844


Well cool, uh moo, um.00:54:03.844 --> 00:54:05.367


The last 30 seconds of the show are yours.00:54:05.509 --> 00:54:15.699


Anything that you want to say or whatever, the floor is yours oh, that's a lot of pressure, I think, just like I think that you guys are.00:54:15.699 --> 00:54:16.581


I love this idea.00:54:16.581 --> 00:54:19.452


I can't wait to hear more of these um.00:54:19.452 --> 00:54:19.875


I think.00:54:19.875 --> 00:54:25.811


I think we capture a lot in our gamer tags and it's so cool to hear everyone's backgrounds and stuff like that.00:54:25.811 --> 00:54:29.126


Um, but other than that, yeah, I don't know.00:54:29.126 --> 00:54:41.012


I just hope to see you guys around and in the video game world and I mean, I'm down to uh nerd out about whatever video games Clare, obscur, all that anytime.00:54:41.514 --> 00:54:43.965


Yeah, dude, for sure I appreciate you coming on the show.00:54:43.965 --> 00:54:50.485


And you know, I guess I just want to echo like you guys should really check her out, like her content is great.00:54:50.485 --> 00:54:53.228


She creates a cool space for people to hang out.00:54:53.228 --> 00:54:55.143


You can find her on Twitch.00:54:55.143 --> 00:54:59.143


You can find her on TikTok Anywhere else you want people to find you, man.00:55:00.005 --> 00:55:00.869


No, those are it.00:55:00.869 --> 00:55:02.090


We just have a good time.00:55:04.601 --> 00:55:05.610


Yeah, so check out her stream.00:55:05.610 --> 00:55:07.846


Do you have a stream schedule that you want to promote?00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:17.673


I'm usually live Monday, wednesday and Thursdays Afternoons Pacific Standard Time, except for Wednesdays.00:55:17.673 --> 00:55:28.648


I am usually on at about 11 or 12 pst sweet, all right well hey, thanks again for coming by and doing this with us.00:55:28.690 --> 00:55:36.561


It was super fun to get to know you and, like, kind of walk through all of your experiences and your digital persona and, um, it was just awesome.00:55:36.561 --> 00:55:37.887


So, yeah, this is super fun.00:55:38.329 --> 00:55:47.724


You like, you made it super easy and I mean super chill, which is really cool, and I hope you guys blow up and this goes well for you guys.00:55:47.724 --> 00:55:49.751


Thanks, dude, thank you yeah.00:55:50.519 --> 00:55:53.626


I just hope we tell cool stories and people feel seen.00:55:54.228 --> 00:55:56.432


Right, I think we will, yeah, cool.00:55:56.960 --> 00:56:07.927


Gamertag is produced by the team at Gamertag Studios, hosted by Scarto46, with original music by Rianoceros, editing by Portabella and visual design by Sushi.00:56:07.927 --> 00:56:11.409


Thanks for joining us on this episode of Gamertag.00:56:11.409 --> 00:56:18.391


A huge thank you to Moo for sharing her story, for opening up about identity, chaos, cows, comfort and everything in between.00:56:18.391 --> 00:56:22.251


We had a great time and we're proud to support the space and community she's building.00:56:22.251 --> 00:56:28.492


You can find her content on Twitch, at twitchtv slash moonmoo and also on TikTok.00:56:28.492 --> 00:56:38.989


You'll also be able to find links to all her content, along with her official Gamertag trading card that we built as part of the reroll segment, at gamertagpodcastcom and on all of our socials.00:56:38.989 --> 00:56:44.226


If you want to join the conversation, hop into our discord, meet other creators and share your story.00:56:44.226 --> 00:56:47.869


Every gamertag has a story and we're here to tell them.00:56:47.869 --> 00:56:51.989


We'll see you next time, on the next episode of gamertag.00:56:53.043 --> 00:56:55.371


Transmission ending Goodbye.